If you think you have a good argument for keeping the bonus by all means post it, maybe CCP will listen, but I think "That's the only thing making the ship good!!! T_T" is just a tick in the column toward removing it.

It's interesting that you mention this Cade, because on approx. page 40 of this thread, CCP Ytterbium specifically said that the web bonus "did not significantly increase your chance to hit frigates", which hardly sounds like he thinks it's OP.

The painting bonus isn't over-powered to the same degree. It lets you hit harder but not as hard as 90% webs and doesn't restrict movement.
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I thought one of the dev's comments about using drones on frigs was funny. Who uses drones on frigs anymore? XD As soon as you launch them these days, it seems one or two are already dead...

Time for another update.

We discussed the Marauder situation further and came with the following changes:

• Shield, armor and hull 30% resistance boosts have been removed on the Bastion Module - instead, all Marauders will now get proper tech2 resists. This will allow Marauders to have better RR use outside Bastion and reduce overall tanking effectiveness inside the mode.


• We have removed all tanking bonuses on the Marauders hulls (Armor Repairer amount on the Paladin and Kronos, Shield Boost amount on the Golem and Vargur). Instead, we are giving them 7.5% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level. This will not only help reducing their tanking effectiveness, be more in theme with the ship role itself and help anyone using them with short range weapons. We are not giving them a full 10% per level back as this would be extremely powerful in conjunction with the other bonuses / Bastion. We are going to leave the full 10% web strength amount on the Serpentis ships for now and see how things evolve with time.


• Also, we are removing the mass penalty on the Bastion mode. Tests have shown you can't really turn when it's active anyway, and we don't want to have players abuse that to collapse wormholes.

I will change the OP to match the changes.

As it stands right now i get almost double the amount of DPS with my skills vs being in a marauder.

They will not do tracking on pali because it will become basically better nightmare.

Just on a sidenote : The new deployable "Mobile Depot" structure

If that Depot also allows to refit Drones, I mean, we can carry a TON of spare drones as well.

Am I missing something? Cause it sounds pretty cool.

Paladin might be better with that optimal bonus changed to tracking and the bastion bonuses unstacked.

So can I use the mobile depot to load missiles instantly? As in not needing to wait the 10 seconds or whatever it is?

Then maybe you should explain to me then why the Vargur and the Kronos both have tracking bonuses.

Apocalypse also has a tracking bonus, that's why the Paladin should have it.

You can just remove the FAKE 5% capacitor capacity bonus. THis is a bonus that was removed form apocalypse YEARS ago becuasse its a FAKE bonus that shoudlbe rolle din the hull.

If the paladin losses the RANGE bonus, then it become a useless piece of ****, alongside the other marauders.

The range is the only thing that really ins increasing mission speed in this patch.

The Paladin's optimal range bonus is a way stronger than average bonus so you get a weaker bonus to balance it.

Raven does more damage than any turret BS at >60km. Do people use Raven fleets in PvP? No, they don't.

I think the Paladin needs 4 turret hardpoints, cos in my reality it has 8 highs, 4 launchers and 4 utility.

wont 4 allready be stacking penalized to death ?

I'm not too worried about volley damage, L4 rats don't rep fast usually, and Marauders as a whole will be OP for L4s and such.

I have been trying out the new marauders on sisi in lv 4 missions and i think its incredible

Expanded Cargohold II

Well the extra 400 cargo you get is realy usefull if you want to have 2 Remote tractor units in your bay. Drop one near you and microjumpdrive 100 km to drop the second to keep them from grabbing each others wrecks.

Jump between them to salvage and loot.

Why Golem is the only marauder who doesnt have damage bonus or rof bonus (despite fact that for example Vargur can change damage types and got rof bonus)?

I like new tachyon Pal. Those ships deserves a lot of skill training time and high price. Good job CCP